[GD] Guild Colors

[Kier]

Hopefully this is worthy of the [GD] tag - I can always remove it if not.

Now that we have seen the guild, dye and armor systems in action, it seemed the ideal time to finally reach a decision.

Implementation

* Guild heraldry may be displayed on cloaks and is always displayed on banners.
* There is no feature to switch to a guild color scheme ( currently ).
* Dyes are unlocked for individual characters as they gain Renown Ranks.
* Dye costs scale from handfuls of copper to multiple gold, per area per item.
* Some item designs are not dyeable ( e.g. some Swordmaster helms can be dyed, some cannot ).
* Some item designs include components that are not affected by dye ( usually metal and border stitching from what I have seen ).

Options

a] Aim For Uniformity
+ Look like an army.
+ Should go well with the cape and banner.
- A single scheme is unlikely to please everyone.
- Due to financial & Renown Rank pressures, limited to earliest colors ( blue, green , turquoise, pink / red, brown ).
- Reduces enjoyment gained by individuals earning the rarer colors, as their best set will always be guild colored.
- Armor pieces which cannot be ( fully ) dyed to match will stand out.

b] Pool Of Colors
+ A level of visual coherence.
+ Freedom to utilise rarer shades of select colors as earned.
- Even a pool of colors is not guaranteed to please everyone.
- Still reduces the enjoyment of earning rarer dyes outside the color pool.
- Armor pieces which cannot be ( fully ) dyed may still match stand out.

c] Freestyle
+ Everyone can suit their own tastes.
+ Everyone can enjoy the rewards of their financial & Renown success.
+ Colors can be tailored to suit fully or partially undyeable items.
- Won't look like an army.
- Lots of people won't be color coordinated with the cape.

A seperate issue would be whether or not pro Standard Bearers ( as opposed to temporary appointees ) should be asked to dye their armor to match their banner, or if that is unreasonable to ask ?

The final issue is whether EU & US chapters should reach a joint decision and even decide colors jointly, if both chapters should decide independently, or even if - in the case of a] and b] - both chapters should have different color schemes ?

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I'd vote for c], but since I did so before we knew how the systems work that is no great surprise.

Though I voted c] ( making guild colors a non-issue ), if I had to comment on the other topics I would say :

* b] Because it seems silly to unlock triple-figure dyes and be limited to the first few.
* Pro Standard Bearers should make a moderate effort to match their banner.
* I'd favor the guild as a whole deciding, since I cannot see how we'd divide colors other than one chapter taking red and the other blue.

[Zanntis]

I am happy if officers decide on guild cape colors. Will there be an Alliance design too?


I would be willing to do my best to always have a guild colors cape in my bag (If I don't just wear all the time) and put it on when going into battle as a group.

[DarkAid]

right well a guild dying system could easily be those of certain rank get certain colours amongst the guild and there for are/or could possibly be ranked higher in the guild...i dont know just a thought that came quick/also you should vote on the colour scheme that way MAJORITY not everyone but majority will be happy

[Argencia]

I am a STRONG supporter of option C. I don't like being forced to do anything, including wear specific colors. I like the idea of having guild colors, so those that want to wear them can; and all those who choose to, will match. Personally, when I first learned that all people of the same class and level would have essentially the same armor I was VERY disappointed; the only saving grace really was when I found out we could dye our armor to look unique. So having to match everyone else, not only in armor style (if we're the same class), but color would make me pretty upset.

I think Kier makes a good point about the standard bearer though. I'd still say the choice should be up to the bearer themself, but I think it'd be a nice touch should they choose to.

In the end I think we can show guild pride and guild uniformity in more important and meaninful ways that simply wearing matching outfits.

[Berethas]

I think a pool of colours would be better, as it keeps a small sense of uniformity and it could be made to match the majoritys tastes.

[marsares]

Provided that I like the guild colours I'll be wearing them. Just makes me all warm and fuzzy on the inside knowing I'm part of this guild, so I want to show it as well.

[Protos]

We could say something bettween a and b in that we could have guild colors and if you don't have acces to a guild color, you could choose a shade close to that. And obviously it wouldn't be completely mandatory, it hardly seems worth kicking someone for that.

[Saerwen]

I dunno, i'm a big fan of uniformity especially in groups that consider them selves an army. Something to consider is having every one have the same type of cloak but when it comes down to armor maybe have the each unit look different. Perhaps if you were interested in a different shade of the same color that would work.

[Belvaryn]

<Rubs Eyes> Argh! My eyes are burning! Too much pink!

Same color cloaks and same color armor.

[Argencia]

Originally Posted by Belvaryn

<Rubs Eyes> Argh! My eyes are burning! Too much pink!

Same color cloaks and same color armor.

Psshhh bring on the PINK!